May 25, 2008

After the loving


In this blog which I may have already published, it may appear to be similar to another blog post. The big difference here is the addition of some real Japanese script - all 3 scripts, moji, heiroglyphs, ideographs, kanji, hiragana, katakana, romaji etc. but I added some moji to the mix in this the 91st edition of my JPPGG©to help my fellow Japanese language learners .


Japanese Plug and Play Ghetto Grammar #109
JPPGG #109 - Three Ways of Saying, '...After... verb(ing') in Japanese.

After, After, and hopefully, happy ever... After...
There are 3 easy ways to say after or "after verbing” in Japanese -

1. verb (base TE) + KARA verb (base て) + から
2. verb (base TA) + ATO DE verb (base た) + あとで 後 = (あと)
3. verb (base TA) + NOCHI NI verb (base た) + のち に 後 = あと(ato),
or 後= のち に (nochi ni)

By themselves KARA (から), ATO DE (あとで) and NOCHI NI (のちに) indicate the English term "after". Put verbs in base TE then add kara to create phrases of doing something after doing something else. Put verbs in base TA then add either ato de or nochi ni to create sentences or phrases that tell us what will happen after we verb.

***So how do I plug and play? Let me explain: First go learn as many verbs as you can and even a couple of nouns if you like, but ghetto grammar or JPPGG consists mainly of knowing how to manipulate verbs. Before you can manupulate verbs you need to memorize the word and also know how to pronounce it correctly. What are you talking about when you say plug and play Japanese Grammar? Preposterous! Its real simple. Japanese Plug and Play Ghetto Grammar works like this:

1. Study hard your vocabulary, or list of Japanese words,
a. Set a goal to memorize 15 new words every two days. This is my best recommendation for learning to speak in Japanese as quickly as humanly possible.
b. Drill and kill your tango lists. ( I have plenty of vocabulary lists or tango lists for you to study, print out or do what you... at http://squidoo.com/japanesevocabulary.)

2. Memorize all types of Japanese words and phrases. For the purposes of being able to start speaking Japanese fast, you are going to have to pay particular attention to verbs. This is what I would suggest. Start learning as many basic verbs as you can, and keep them tucked away under your belt, memorized and ready to go so that we can use them effectively to communicate later in Japanese. We can construct almost any type of meaningful communication as long as we know a few key Japanese verbs. ( Find the fiirst 100 essential Japanese vocabulary words here at http://squidoo.com/essentialjapanesewords)

3. Take your solidly retained, and newly memorized verbs from your tango lists and start plugging them into the JPPGG system or the Ghetto Grammar Constructions found in lessons 77 - 119).

To see the full index of JPPGG grammar construction pages go to http://squidoo.com/ghettogrammar107 or just ghettogrammar to start your plugging.

4. Play with the construction. Create wonderfully original Japanese sentences, by plugging the verbs you have learned into the grammar constructions. Play, play play.

It is really a lot of fun learning how to speak Japanese. Japanese is such a cool language, terribly challenging, but the rewards are well worth the effort.
As always, Ganbatte Ne!
Makurasuki , 5..25.2008

I can't emphasize what I feel to be one of the main components to learning Japanese. The one main component that is integral to your study and will help you learn and master a language faster than any other methods. It may surprise you, but it is a very well kept secret that in order to get good at Japanese or any foreign langauge for that matter, you must drill and kill yourself to death if you are to see any positive results that happen like in a few weeks.

Try as you may any other way and it may take you 17 years to do what rhote memorization and repetition drilling will do for you language skills. I also duly not my opinion that when we translate our words, studying them, drilling and killing them, tyring in whatever way we can to memorize the words, it is important to say at this point that we should be able to translate in both directions.

Until you can say the word both in English and Japanese, 2 way lateral translating to yourself then that particular mode of study will not be sufficient towards mastery. It is not good enough just to be able to translate one way. An earnest Japanese language student will be desirous of possessing the capabilites and skills required to translate words from English to Japanese, and also from Japanese to English.

Below is some examples of how these constructions are used, now all you need to do is gather as many verbs as you can and start practicing speaking Japanese. The more you speak out loud, the more comfortable you become with the Japanese words that come into your mouth. in Japanese the faster will be the path to Japanese fluency.

To say that you will do something after doing something else in Japanese, use the following grammar constructions:

1. Verb (Base TE) + KARA ‐ after verb’ing

Take verbs and put them into base TE.

In the set of Japanese regular verbs :

- Verbs ending in KU become - - -> ITE
- Verbs ending in GU become - - - > IDE
- Verbs ending in U, TSU, or RU - - - > TTE
- Verbs ending in BU, MU or NU - - - > NDE

again that is to say

- Verbs ending in KU (く) become - - -> ITE (いて)

- Verbs ending in GU (ぐ) become - - - > IDE (いで)

- Verbs ending in U (う), TSU (つ), or RU (る) - - - > TTE (って)

- Verbs ending in BU (ぶ), MU (む), or NU (ぬ) - - - > NDE (んで)



In the set of Japanese irregular verbs:

-Verbs ending in SU (す) become - - - > SHITE (して)

The verb suru is irregular and it is irregular regularly. That is a little jodan. A joke of sorts but its true. You will be using irregular Japanese verbs all the time. So don't shy away from irregular verbs. Just because they don't conform like all the rest of the entire Japanese language. We musn't let those words get us down. After using them in our parlayance, and hearing native Japanese speakers use the irregular verbs we will come to understand,.

These good little nuggetts of confusion we be our ally in the future if we can learn how to manipulate them. One advantage Japanese as a langauge that can be studied versus English, is that irregular verbs have consistent irregular rules. Don't let anything get you discouraged or take away your high and lofty goals for mastering the Japanese langauge and speaking it today!

You must ganbaru - v. to do your best. Hang tough and remember... there aren't many rules that exist but that there also exists an exception for every rule created for the sake of langauge learning.. You shouldn't let the fact that sometimes, there is no clean and clear explanation as to why Japanese grammar is the way it is.


add + KARA (after) - から

JPPGG #109 - Verb (base TE) + KARA = after verb, I verbed (or was verbing, or even had to verb etc.)


HANASU (話す) - (v. to speak) - HANASHITE (話して)

CHOTTO HANASHITE KARA IKIMASHO^ - ちょっと 話して から 行きましょう.
Let's go after we talk a little, shall we?

YOMU (読む) - (v. to speak) YONDE (読んで)

HON O YONDE KARA NERU TO OMOIMASU. - 本を読んでから寝ると思います.
I think I'll sleep after reading a book or I think I'll go to bed after I read this book.

TABERU (食べる) - (v. to eat) - TABETE (食べて)

TABETE KARA SHUKUDAI O SURU ‐ 食べてから宿題をする.
After I eat, I'm going to do homework.

UNDO^ (運動) - (v to exercise) - Undo^ shite (運動 して)

UNDO^ WO SHITE KARA SHAWA O SURU KOTO GA SUKI DESU -
運動をしてからシャーワーをすることが好きです - I like to shower after I exercise.


2. Verb (Base TA) + ATO DE - after verb’ing

Take verbs and put them into base TA

NOMU (飲む) - (v. to drink) NONDA (飲んだ)

NOMU (飲む) - (Base TA) NONDA
Verb ending in either BU, MU or NU ta - - - >nda

NOMU (飲む) in base TA (た) is NONDA (飲んだ)

SAKE O NONDA ATO DE NEMUKUNATTA ‐さけを飲んだ後で眠くなった
I got sleepy after drinking some* sake.

*NOCHI NI (後 に) = ATO DE, NOCHI DE

3.Verb ( base TA) + NOCHI NI - after verb’ing

Sorekara - thereafter, or after that...

SAKE O NONDA NOCHI NI IE NI KAETTA ‐酒を飲んだ 後 に 家 に帰えた
I returned home after drinking some SAKE.

SAKE O NONDA NOCHI NI INU O SAMPO SHI NI ITTA ‐
酒を飲んだ後に散歩しに行った
(After I drank some sake I took the dog for a walk.)

As you can see from these examples, there are two sides with two verbs comprising this construction. (Predicates and the like.)

Verb 1 in base TE +KARA and Verb 2

Verb 2 can be past, present, negative or positive, but Verb 1 must be in base TE.

As Always,
Ganbatte Ne! 頑張ってね! - Do Your Best! And stay away from the mes, I mean mesothelioma
Makurasuki Sensei マクラスキー 先生
P.S. I was thinking of writing an example sentence for this grammar of after verbing by saying something like - After I inhaled the musty, damp, mildewy smelling asbestos from that old run down house, I contracted mesothelioma. But I will wait on that sentence for a later blog, here only on http://japanetics.blogspot.com

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